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Maintaining Erik ten Hag last summer season ‘looks increasingly ridiculous’ but giving him any transfer enter after Antony was ‘madness’. Man Utd are an absolute mess.
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Spiderman meme
Anyone else reckon that Ange’s team talk today was “Lads, it’s United”?
Dave (LFC), Galway
Overheard from Extinct Trafford away changing rooms around 4.25pm today: “Lads, it’s Man Utd.
Mate.”
Chris Bridgeman, Kingston upon Thames
Lads, it’s Tottenham.
Eoin (who’s getting the Utd job?) Ireland
“Lads, it’s Tottenham”.
Anon
Leaked WhatsApp
‘Hi Gareth. It’s Jim. Put you and Steve fancy doing a bit of cash in hand?
Scholes’ Ballsack (now not as gruesome as Ten Haag’s football)
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Football is dead
Neatly let’s preface the remaining of this by saying that Man Utd are sh*t. Absolute dross. You’ve probably obtained to say it’s the manager but there are a few players there that are stealing a dwelling. Is the fresh possession any greater? Neatly that’s a longer interval of time factor but sticking with a Ten Hag looks increasingly ridiculous – and I was very notable in the #ETHIN camp earlier than the season started.
Maybe when all the fresh signings gel and the young players mature he’ll flip out to be the 2d coming of Fergie. It looks increasingly now not going though, and the odds were small to start with.
Anyway, the level is that it’s very hard to watch your team gather battered at dwelling (lads – it’s f**king SPURS?!) but it legal becomes pointless and futile in the occasion you give a purple card admire that. A foul? A yellow? Needless to say, it was cynical. A purple? No longer a cat in hells chance was that a purple card if it happened the alternative way round. There’s too many games now that are getting faulty by the refs and if anything this referee’s call stuff is making worse. Who’d have conception that sticking with the opinions of of us that objectively don’t know what they’re doing was a bad idea? Be aware when Havertz was strangled on the pitch and the player didn’t gather sent off? Then how on earth was that a purple card today. They’re making it up as they crawl along.
I is probably now not watching any extra premier league football till PGMOL are binned off, they’re ruining the game. Them and UEFA with their ridiculous European Large Leagues (WTAF). And FIFA with their corruption and obsession with footballers playing hundreds of thousands of games at all instances of the year. And the Saudis and 115 Abu Dhabi Metropolis battling out a bore draw on a Saturday morning. It’s all sh*te.
And don’t assume I’m sat here pondering Man Utd would have obtained back into the game if Bruno had gentle been on the pitch (how is it a purple?!). Spurs already had the beating of Man Utd earlier than then albeit without any ability to accomplish their chances. What the purple card did was rob us of the chance to explore Spurs embarrass Man Utd 11v11 and present a legitimate excuse for Ten Hag.
Verbalize sh*te.
Ash Metcalfe
Yes we were dismal in first half and Spurs may well have been 3 up but 1-0 at halftime and anything may well have happened. But no, officials smash the game again as a spineless Mr Magoo in the VAR room doesn’t correct the horrific mistake made by the ref.
Anything that happens after the purple card is irrelevant. Having said that, Bruno can attain with a stint on the bench and a kick up the ass as he has been abject for most of this season.
Arsenal for the league to even out these injustices.
Garey Vance, MUFC
I’ve made a broad mistake
Man U fluking the FA cup last season is the worst factor that may well have happened to them. Compelled them to stay to ETH.
6 games in and it’s dazzling glaring it’s another 12 months wasted. Another 100m on De Ligt, Mazraoui, Zirkzee wasted. Bruno legal signed on lengthy interval of time contract and goes missing.
Stuck with a manager who doesn’t appear to acknowledge any of his faults. They are gonna approach Sixth at most this year. ETH gonna employ accidents again as an excuse.
The entirely factor that may be funnier is in the occasion that they sack ETH and rent Southgathe. He may well actually quit up being greater but the short interval of time immediate meltdown can be hilarious.
ABU since 98
Anon
Two 3-0 defeats at dwelling in a row. Have Man Utd ever achieved that earlier than of their historical past?
Unless I miscounted, Solskjaer (who had to head) misplaced by 3 goals or extra five instances over three years. We’ve entirely started Ten Hag’s third year and that was his tenth defeat by 3 goals or extra as Man Utd manager. Six of these were at dwelling, all 3-0 and to teams at the side of Newcastle, Bournemouth and f**king Spurs. Also Liverpool twice in a row. Then there’s the likes of 4-0 at Palace and 3-0 at Sevilla.
Be aware when all people said the 7-0 to Liverpool was a freak end result? It wasn’t.
Maintaining him on after the FA Cup was legal admire giving Ole the job permanently because of the PSG game. Letting him have any enter into signings after Antony is madness but they signed two extra of his Ajax lads summer season legal gone anyway. I don’t gape notable distinction between ineos and the last crowd at the 2d.
Eamonn, Dublin
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200m spent every summer season and they’re always rubbish.
That is karma for 20 years of believing they would be essentially the most straightforward team on the planet ceaselessly.
And we’re all loving it.
Roll on manager no 7 to proceed this gloriously costly mediocrity.
rojapy
Keane learner
This shouldn’t need explaining but I assume it does to a Mailbox plump of Arsenal fans this morning.
Man United being absolutely crap with 10 men (and also with 11 men), doesn’t mean that Roy Keane was unfavorable to state his conception that Arsenal may well have or must gentle have been a bit extra ambitious with 10 men.
One has nothing to attain with the alternative.
Rather hilarious, mind.
James, MUFC
Ugarte be kidding
No longer a great day for you on Sunday, Man Utd fans.
You can analyse a need of things about it but that first goal, I mean Van der Ven, he legal ran straight by means of that hole in the heart of your midfield, that really shouldn’t happen but it legal retains happening doesn’t it. Dear me.
But on the outrageous facet, it’s legal as well you’ve obtained that Ugarte bloke coming in – as you all sustain saying, he’ll kind out that particular situation for you. An upgrade on Casemiro, for particular.
[Checks starting XI v Spurs]
Oh no, wait. Hang on…..
– Andy H, Swansea
Ten Hag lacks emotional quotient
Attempting to position my finger on the core of the flaws after that non-performance from Man Utd. There are so many candidates for the foundational errors. Bruno Fernandes’s build and frustrations, Rashford’s continuing to flatter to deceive, the persisted switching off, of the defence. 7 games in and a goal distinction of minus 3 doesn’t augur well for the season. And essentially the most damning factor is that man for man, you’d assume Man Utd have a greater team than Spurs.
I gain Ten Hag’s situation is a bit admire Rangnik’s situation as well. He knows the fair factor to attain, and has tactical ideas. He probably is a legal analyst as well. But he’s legal now not entering the heads and hearts of his players. Collectively the Man Utd players are switched off. Every action takes half a 2d to register. Players bring to mind what to attain after receiving the ball. Or are on their heels when being played by means of. Or are operating the unfavorable way relative to the pass. Rangnik also consistently threw the players beneath the bus, which ETH doesn’t attain. But he’s clearly unable to gather them fired up. And that is with a core of players that he has managed earlier than. Legal managers have to manage both the analytical and emotional / mental facet of the game. Having defended ETH all this time, I have to attain that he’s now not able to gather the players fired up. You can argue that managers shouldn’t want to at this degree, but it’s always a key part of the game. At this level, There are at least half a dozen managers at so called smaller clubs in the Premier League who wants to be able to attain a greater job.
Bruno obtained a runt unlucky with the purple card but I believe he’s operating on fumes, having played himself into the ground for club and nation for 2 years now. A couple of games out may well actually be legal for him. Zirkzee can play in his place. Meanwhile nobody has picked up that Rashford and Garnacho conspired to lose the ball from a place of legal advantage for the first goal and Rashford legal gave up after shedding the ball.
Ved Sen (MUFC)
Hotspurred
Seventy five minutes gone, it’s clear to me that a high four place is past the reach of Erik’s abilities. Villa ( by a mile ), Chelsea, Newcastle and Hotspurs are a carve above.
When Sir Alex left, I stated to my United supporting boss, welcome to a fresh manager every 2 or 3 years. And here we are.
Uff, a third. Great for the travelling fans .
Perhaps Graham Potter may have an interest. Having a explore for an Atleti web in the derby .
Peter. (Barca let in 4 , Ter Stegen being injured is a disaster)
Sunny & warm Andalucia.
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All things must pass
Coming into there early, (writing in at 52 mins) but I gain our very top 2d is ending, subsequently another musician title for my email.
Even Calvino and Garey Vance can’t clarify this performance (though I am praying that they’ll in some way as, admire most none Utd fans, I am desperate for ETH to stay).
‘Fred, AWB, Scott McT aren’t legal adequate for Utd, he’s removal the deadwood’ but he’s replacing them with worse players.
It really is that straightforward.
Anyway, ETH, thanks for the recollections. I can take solace that the FA Cup web saved your job and you managed to carry even extra of your maintain players for the next manager to have to gather rid of.
David (The fat lady is bellowing) Molby, Shrewsbury
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Banter club
Examine, now what Bruno’s purple card does is it offers Ten Hag (as well as Man Utd fans) a handy excuse and deflection level as to why they’ll have misplaced a game they were always meant to, even in the occasion that they had twelve on the pitch today. Runt doubt there can be many letters in day after today’s mailbox bemoaning the purple as “controversy” but don’t let the deluge nor the deluded idiot you, Spurs were successful this fixture from the off.
On Spurs though, I came upon the latest sentiments from somebody who strangely referred to him- or herself as an AI fan (though if I were a supporter of The Tottenham, perhaps I’d also beg anonymity) rather lacking in any awareness or rationale. This person conception it strange Dave Tickner didn’t practice up with an effusive 16 conclusions on Spurs’ midweek Qarabag heroics. Two things here: 1) I actually always conception Tickner was a Spurs fan, but I don’t really know; and, 2) I actually watched notable of that game and Qarabag was one in all the worst aspects I’ve ever considered (truly, and now not hyperbole), but they indisputably had their chances and may well’ve gotten a end result on another day, despite the one-sided scoreline.
AI fans or now not, why is it that Spurs supporters judge so piously in the elitism and superiority of their club when any and every factual proof facets so entirely to the contrary. This has always mystified me. Is it due to their shoe-horning themselves at the back of the Large Six moniker ? Too easily I can bring to mind at least five clubs with worthier credentials for his or her area in a Large Six, and it’s such a dead have faith to start with.
Here’s two shouts if I were to don an in dismal health-fitting USA cap for a scorching minute: the Los Angeles Clippers are the Tottenham Hotspur of the NBA. The Los Angeles Chargers are the Tottenham Hotspur of the NFL. Each these franchises play in the town by means of which I dwell, and both are definitive banter franchises of the state and of their sport, who’ve lengthy ago traded any chance of successful pedigree with perennial laughingstock status. But occasionally both the Clippers and Chargers will notch a large web someplace, because such is sport. The unfortunate factor is, an occasional apex 2d against a Qarabag yesterday or a crap Man Utd today will now not without warning undo a legacy of lengthy-held, historic carrying failure.
Spurs may well web a Carabao, FA Cup and Europa League treble this season and this combination of treble would be essentially the most befitting of themselves. But I truthfully don’t assume it would transfer the needle notable in phrases of taking out their deeply steeped premier banter-club status… it’s legal been way too lengthy now in the making.
Eric, Los Angeles CA (For a very very lengthy time Liverpool were linked with Timo Werner. And for a very very lengthy time I’ve said we’ve dodged the bluntest of Bavarian bullets there.)
A couple of things
Two considerations to talk about for me after this weekend.
1. I’ve been patient, but I will now be accepting my flowers for the Ryan Gravenberch discourse a month or so ago. The boy is an absolute star already, the ceiling is even extra wrong than even I, essentially the most optimistic of fans expected it to be, and I’m loving every 2d of it. The fact that he has but to gain a match this season where he wasn’t phenomenal is mind-blowing.
2. To you disheartened United fans out there talking your Erik in, Erik out, Erik shake it all about. Once again missing the level. Understand that whoever coaches you subsequent, talented or now not, he’s gentle going to gather torpedoed by your actual major considerations, admire having the jelly-based Bruno as captain and Main Man©, Rashford as a literal anchor, and spineless, unbothered clowns all around the dressing room.
Erik may suck as a coach, but nobody on this planet would whip that nightmare of a squad into shape. At the scorching state you’re far extra at possibility of smash [enter new player’s name] than he’s at possibility of fix your complications. You wish a purge, and you wish it soon.
Tomer, LFC (dark arts, successful gruesome yada yada…)
Infamy, infamy
No longer searching forward to Monday’s mailbox at all.
All these conspiracy idea emails all over again.
What’s that? Arsenal scored a goal when the ref didn’t give a free kick against them? An Arsenal player wasn’t sent off for a clear 2nd yellow card when the game was 2-2?
Who cares in the occasion that they had 432 shots, Ninety 9.Ninety 9% possession and 87 corners, it’s the selections incorrectly given for your favour which have a larger bearing on the tip end result.
Apologies in the comments or by return please.
Howard (they’re but to have a 90+ facets season) Jones
Unconscious bias and Arsenal
With regards to Tom Leyton’s Mail on Sunday.
I agree with many of his facets regarding the dysfunction in the PGMOL and the ‘mates club’ vibe it offers off.
Nonetheless originally, when yellow cards can be given for a multitude of one off reasons and accumulative fouling, a yellow card/foul ratio is a dazzling dismal station of data to base conclusions from. A team that is gobby towards the ref and kicking the ball away may accumulate extra yellows despite fouling much less. Less unconscious bias extra idiotic players.
Secondly, in case you are aware of unconscious bias and are fervent about its outcomes then certainly you can weaponise this too? Discover that Villa (admire very team) have had contentious choices that have trace us facets but now not as soon as has Emery even mentioned them. Brian Clough told his players to be unquestionably well mannered to referees for exactly the same reason. Unconsciously, the referee may explore forward to taking charge of your matches instead of caring about your players/fans/managers hysterical reactions. Given the ego on all these referees attain you now not assume, unconsciously, you are bringing it upon yourselves?
To accomplish, the defence that all people else will get away with it doesn’t wash in primary faculties or the justice gadget. It is now not the excessive moral ground many folks assume it is.
Funstar (how about the arsenal fella that must gentle have gather a 2d yellow yesterday… unconscious bias or conspiracy?) Andy
Corner shop
Extra to Ron Jeremias mail printed on Sunday, and other earlier missives about Arsenal corners, I’ll approach straight out and admit I haven’t read actual principles (which would make me no different to most pundits to be fair).
But, certainly if it isn’t against the foundations to forestall the goalkeeper from leaving his line in show to catch or punch the ball it really wants to be. Regardless of whether the blocking players transfer or stand gentle, they are struggling with the goalkeeper from making a legitimate defensive action, which is an obstruction, fair?
If Arsenal are doing nothing unfavorable according to the scorching principles, then fair play to them as what they are doing, they are doing well. If no offence is being dedicated then it’s as a lot as their opponents to approach back up with another way to counter it.
Adam, LFC, Montreal.
Chelsea’s plan
Typically I gain what if Chelsea’s plan all along was to imprint a load of talented young players on lengthy contracts, throw them in at the deep quit for the duration of the chaos of the post Abramovic culture change and gape which players may well handle it. To forge a neighborhood of young players in adversity and then gape which of them stick together and grow together. To create the bonds and resiliance that can be vital as this squad continues its rush from car crashing into a burning train damage to the Champions League. What in the occasion that they are waiting for the fresh team to totally build earlier than they add a lethal #9? What in the occasion that they transfer to Wembley for 5 years whereas they rebuild Stamford Bridge and sell the extra 7.5 million tickets and packing containers for £1 billion?
Then I take note they made Frank Lampard manager and realise I must be dreaming.
Ben
Gordon the diver?
Atrocious from whoever in Newcastle.
All people else on the BBC updates did it for me.
I have accepted that he’s the league’s largest cheat, maybe you might want to gentle too.
Fat Man (+Everton won so a runt extra sanguine than normal)
Proxy war
After watching the Metropolis and Newcastle game the alternative day I realized I was legal watching two oil states engage in a proxy war. Is the way forward for football, legal nation states searching for teams to compete against each other? In that case this can start to heat up a bit. May perhaps a particular nasty harm to a star player kick off an international incident? I gain it would make the premier league a bit extra thrilling radiant that a last minute winner headed in from Dan Burns may well station off WW3.
Conor Maximus, LFC
An article interrogate
You did one about Potter going to Everton who have no wins.
Everton crawl on to web over the weekend.
Can you guys please write one about Wolves this week ( we are getting desperate).
Cheers pals
Colin WWFC dublin
